Sep 16, 2020
'Tell the public the truth' — Bob Woodward says Trump failed to rally U.S. around coronavirus fight
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Journalist Bob Woodward told CNBC that President Donald Trump lacked a national strategy to bring the U.S. together to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus.
"If you tell the public the truth, that they will rally 'round.They will get behind the leadership," Woodward said in an interview with CNBC's Shepard Smith that aired Wednesday on "Squawk Box."
Woodward, who is best known for his role in uncovering the Watergate scandal while at The Washington Post, published his latest book on the Trump presidency, "Rage," on Tuesday. He also authored the book, "Fear," which was released two years ago.
In the CNBC interview, Woodward compared Trump's early response to the intensifying coronavirus — which emerged late last year in Wuhan, China — to how former President George W. Bush responded immediately following the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, that killed nearly 3,000 Americans.
"This happened in 9/11 after the terrorist attack in New York and the Pentagon. President George W. Bush actually gave speeches and said, you know, we're going to respond at an hour of our choosing," Woodward said, likely referring to Bush's speech at a national prayer service a few days after the attack.
"The public got behind this. The Congress got behind it," said Woodward, a two-time winner of the Pulitzer Prize, including an award as part of The Post's coverage of 9/11. "It was bad news. People won't flee from bad news. People in this country are problem-solvers, I believe."
Asked specifically by CNBC's Smith if the Trump administration did "have a plan" to respond to the eventual pandemic, Woodward said, "They didn't."
"One of my findings in the book is that President Trump is a one-man band. He decides things. He has his impulses. There are not the kind of serious regular meetings of the National Security Council or the National Economic Council. And being a one-man band, he acts on the impulse of the moment," Woodward added.
Woodward's book is partly based on nearly 20 interviews he conducted with Trump over the course of several months. Last week, it was reported that Trump told Woodward in mid-March that he "wanted to always play it down," referring to the threat of the coronavirus.
"I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic," Trump told Woodward on March 19. On Feb. 28, weeks before that interview with Woodward, Trump had said publicly that the virus would "disappear."
Despite those comments to Woodward, which are on tape, Trump said at an ABC town hall event Tuesday that "in many ways I up-played it in terms of action."
The U.S. now has more than 6.6 million confirmed cases of the coronavirus and at least 195,961 people have died, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. In addition to the significant health toll, the pandemic has caused significant economic damage as states and cities around the U.S. imposed business restrictions intended to slow transmission of the virus.
Millions of Americans lost their jobs, and the stock market also experienced a steep decline, plunging from records highs in late February into bear market territory by late March. That is generally defined as declining 20% or more from recent highs. Wall Street has rapidly recovered since then. The U.S. unemployment rate was 8.4% in August, a marked improvement from its 14.7% coronavirus-era peak in April.
The stock market has recovered tremendously from its pandemic-induced lows, in part due to the fiscal and monetary support unleashed by Congress and the Federal Reserve in hopes of preventing further financial carnage. As of Tuesday's close, the S&P 500 is more than 55% above its March 23 intraday low.
Along the way of Wall Street's swift rally, Trump has touted the robust recovery in equity markets.
Woodward told Smith the stock market is "one indicator of what's going on in the American economy." But, he added, "for the tens of millions of people who don't have jobs, who don't have enough food, who have no steady income, this is a crisis like the Great Depression in terms of people who live here and work here."
Woodward said he asked Trump whether the president was aware of the economic struggle being faced by Americans during the pandemic. Woodward said, "He will acknowledge it. But he's not acting on it."
In August, after key provisions of earlier stimulus expired, Trump signed a series of executive actions he said were designed to provide economic relief to Americans, including a partial extension of the weekly federal unemployment insurance enhancement to state benefits. Trump, who is seeking reelection against Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, also initiated action to get the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to invoke authority to halt evictions for some Americans through the end of the year.
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Facebook Twitter email Print Article AA Queen City Coffee Collective announced the newest release in its Artist Series, a rare Colombian Wush Wush coffee that comes in a canister designed by illustrator Becca Reitz. This is the third collaboration in the
Queen City Coffee Collective announced the newest release in its Artist Series, a rare Colombian Wush Wush coffee that comes in a canister designed by illustrator Becca Reitz. This is the third collaboration in the series that Queen City began with the FRNDS Agency to support local artists affected by COVID-19.
The Artist Series is an ongoing project in which a different artist designs the package for a new coffee every month. RiNo-based FRNDS Agency specializes in content creation, digital marketing and branding and started working with Queen City three months ago to help identify and promote artists for the series. "We find people who are incredible artists who are doing incredible things... and tell more about their story, get their name out there as much as possible through captivating imagery and video assets," says Corey Mercer, FRNDS Agency founder and creative director, adding that previous packages have been designed by Jon Kalisz and Hiero Veiga, a mural artist.
"As Denver becomes more of a creative hub following in the footsteps of New York and L.A., we want to highlight [local artists]— especially during COVID, when we can’t connect in person as much," Mercer continues. "A lot of artists don’t have full-time studios and we know a lot of people are being very frugal with their money. Art is typically one of those things you buy when you have more disposable income, so we want to give them any uplift we can. We're giving back to [the artists] in multiple different ways, and any boost we can during COVID is our goal."Related Stories
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Luke Byington, one of the three brothers behind Queen City, says that the pandemic was a catalyst to getting the project off the ground, but the idea didn't come to fruition solely because of it."A lot of our friends and customers have been involved in the art scene," he says, which is why he wanted to support the Denver art community. "With Queen City, we’ve always been pretty connected with the arts community, so we wanted to do something that’s less about coffee," he says, and instead, emphasize the art.
In fact, current Artist Series designer Reitz explains that before she had a studio in RiNo, she worked on projects out of Bellwether, where the Byingtons originally did all the roasting for Queen City before moving into their own space. "It's fun to do something where I have free rein a little," says Reitz. "I have a lot of work that's super-illustrative, mystical illustration style...but that’s only 10 to 20 percent of my work and the rest of my time I’m a designer full time, so I saw it was an opportunity to pull in some of my creative illustrations."
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The coffee itself is considered a work of art by many seekers of rare beans. Byington explains that Wush Wush is "an Ethiopian varietal grown in Columbia — a wild-fermented coffee that goes through a crazy process before we get it. The way we describe it is a kombucha fermentation on the nose and watermelon fruit. When people think Colombian coffee they think chocolate and nutty. This is not an every day drink — it’s definitely an experience. The producers of this amazing coffee, the Gutierrez family of Finca Monteverde, supplied just a nano-lot of the coffee, so there's only a handful of six ounce canisters available."
Queen City's Baker location, at 305 West First Avenue, has always had a walk-up window, and the Five Points outpost, at 2962 Welton Street, recently added one to minimize contact inside the shop. "The past two were available at our walk-up windows," Byington says of the series. "But [Wush Wush] is only available for preorder online because it’s kind of a special coffee... any leftover will be at the walk up window."
Visit Queen City's online store to purchase the Colombian Wush Wush coffee in a six-ounce container for $25. The shop has also turned Becca's design into a sticker available at both locations. To receive advance notification for the next Queen City Coffee Artist Collaboration, follow @queencitycoffee or @FRNDSAgency on Instagram, then send an Instagram DM to either account.